tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21894908.post7881997422713687949..comments2023-11-01T02:19:14.796-05:00Comments on Elements Of Power: Debunking Close Air Support Myths, 2nd Edition: Part 7 SMSgt Machttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08126690689798203866noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21894908.post-49227788021285780772013-12-10T19:15:54.612-06:002013-12-10T19:15:54.612-06:00Sweetman has chimed in on this debate..eager to he...Sweetman has chimed in on this debate..eager to hear your analysis..<br /><br />http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/AW_12_09_2013_p15-641104.xml&p=1Marauderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12349162894534446767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21894908.post-49020624046505664192013-11-19T21:32:25.038-06:002013-11-19T21:32:25.038-06:00When I was in Europe in the late 70s, our ground t...When I was in Europe in the late 70s, our ground tactics changed as the A-10s were fielded. Before then, we were focused on enemy tanks and infantry carriers. We were very concerned with the Soviets punching holes in our lines, and we were compelled to mass antitank assets on the best routes to prevent that.<br /><br />After the A-10s a gaggle of Soviet armor on a good route was a target. We focused on maintaining good positions, but tried to target 'funnies' the vehicles that didn't look like other vehicles, such as multiple antenna vehicles, ZSU-23-4s, and other radar or air defense assets. With those stripped away we had some degree of confidence that the Soviet penetration units could be bottled up, and destroyed with air power.Don Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06057058763094040058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21894908.post-80688844208730826292013-10-23T19:01:10.467-05:002013-10-23T19:01:10.467-05:00Hi MK EOD,
Not a problem. The series is about '...Hi MK EOD,<br />Not a problem. The series is about 'de-mythification', so the farther it's spread the better. When you find others respond with even more tropes, ask them "sources please?" SMSgt Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08126690689798203866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21894908.post-63862879814603519662013-10-20T09:42:08.983-05:002013-10-20T09:42:08.983-05:00SMSgt Mac:
I'm a USAF EOD tech with a deploym...SMSgt Mac:<br /><br />I'm a USAF EOD tech with a deployment to Afghanistan under my belt. I'm a friend of Larry Correia's, whose gun control article you posted here, and cowrote the novel Dead Six with him.<br /><br />I hope you don't mind, but I reposted this article on a forum that he and I both frequent, to open it up for discussion.<br /><br />http://wethearmed.com/military-and-law-enforcement/the-a-10-close-air-support-myths-and-procurement-politics<br /><br />Please keep up the excellent blogging!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21894908.post-84580922844900096162013-09-27T19:30:47.332-05:002013-09-27T19:30:47.332-05:00There are two main problems with this article. Fir...There are two main problems with this article. First it's too well thought out, rational, and written by someone with actual USAF experience. Second grand conspiracies are SOOOOOOO much more fun.<br /><br /> -LPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21894908.post-35850660385623807012013-09-27T17:18:17.668-05:002013-09-27T17:18:17.668-05:00Hi Nuno,
I'd say pretty much the same for heli...Hi Nuno,<br />I'd say pretty much the same for helicopters as well. The A-10 of the 80's would have almost no night/adverse weather capability to work down in the weeds for far too great a percentage of time in Central Europe. The extra survivability at the FEBA comes from the enemy having (hopefully) less time to track and shoot you down because they're preoccupied with good guys on the ground shooting at them at the same time. It is interesting to note that A-10s in Allied Force ranged far and wide all over Kosovo and rarely got into trouble because the FACs only went down to 10K ft and the missile shooters stayed above 15K. <br />the A-10 was designed for what is by todays standards a permissive threat environment. (See the case study link above) SMSgt Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08126690689798203866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21894908.post-27163016902862831292013-09-27T16:54:55.011-05:002013-09-27T16:54:55.011-05:00I should also note that Horner pulled back the A-1...I should also note that Horner pulled back the A-10s ~8 days before the ground war kicked off, so at the time there was no CAS, and no material difference in BAI close to the line and deep behind, EXCEPT the Air Defense environment. SMSgt Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08126690689798203866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21894908.post-45302211381461545472013-09-27T16:43:15.486-05:002013-09-27T16:43:15.486-05:00Well,Mike Spick talks about that in is 1987 book«A...Well,Mike Spick talks about that in is 1987 book«An illustrated guide to modern attack aircraft».He said that if the A-10 penetrates more than 3km beyond the FLOT it has gone to far...<br />The order of battle in Europe was the A-10 and the german Alpha Jet doing CAS,F-16s and Jaguar doing interdition and the Tornado and the F-111 doing deep strike...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10433559321704976627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21894908.post-79734995861998057702013-09-27T15:23:33.993-05:002013-09-27T15:23:33.993-05:00You are correct. The discriminating factor between...You are correct. The discriminating factor between the Republican Guard and lesser units threatwise was more AAA, manpads, and mobile SAMs.SMSgt Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08126690689798203866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21894908.post-29757784027839870722013-09-27T14:24:58.864-05:002013-09-27T14:24:58.864-05:00If I remember right, Horner pulled the A-10's ...If I remember right, Horner pulled the A-10's off of the Republican Guard because they were operating too far forward at the time. He got on the planners for doing that while having F-16's doing work on the border. He had them switch the roles around so the 16's were doing deep strike like they were suppose to.Seal Of Lionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05304620391386824536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21894908.post-38373942456601002672013-09-27T12:30:02.313-05:002013-09-27T12:30:02.313-05:00Excellent article Mac.Excellent article Mac.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com